It was a very nice chapter. I especially liked the last part: peredhel conspiracy. If ther twins are involved, this is either oing to be funny, or going to end in disaster. I would prefer the former, but of course this is your story, I could settle with the latter, too. Just please don't stop or leave us hanging in suspense for a long time.
Author's Response: Got to get my muses back on track! They have been dragging their feet and this fic keeps growing! I actually have about 4 chapters written that come after this part, but I do not have all the chapters for this segment done yet! (Yep, I often write out of order!) I also have a new plot twist that sprang up and is requiring a bit or reworking on some later parts....Just gotta get through Eowyn's wedding and I should be ok. And yes, meddling (in my tales) never goes exactly as planned!
Much though I love the internet (for what would fan fiction be without it?), I must say I do regret the passing of the custom of letter-writing (though I was always terrible and lax at it, myself). It's nice that it still lives on (if only fictionally) between friends and would-be lovers.
As for the other meaning of "to die," I did, indeed, know it, though not from Shakespeare (my knowledge of the Bard is, sadly, not what it should be). I've heard of it through the French phrase "la petite mort," though I can't think now where I encountered it.
But back to the Rohirrim... Eowyn has been my favorite character from my first reading of the books (far too many years ago to admit to readily), and my love for Eomer no doubt comes from my life-long wish that I had an older brother; and I am fascinated that their relationship could be so detailed with such limited screen time. Said limited screen time, however, always makes me want more, and that's why I've enjoyed this series of stories so much. I'm now hoping for a glimpse of the wedding almost as much as the chance for Eomer to see Lothiriel again!
One last thing, and then I'll stop being so wordy (I apologize, by the way): I am a HUGE Loreena McKennitt fan and I love that she inspired this!!
Author's Response: Glad to know I am not the only one familiar with "to die!" lol. I was never grand at letter writing either, but there is something very intimate about it--as long as the letters stay private. You are hardy wordy and this is what I love about this sight! Reveiwers actually offer thoughts and go deeper than just "I am enjoying this.." Because of this site's comments, I added 2 chapters to an already written fic, wrote "The Miller's Daughter" and am now thinking of a major twist that woul require a re-write of at least 2 chapters I already have completed! But I do not mind cause it is fueled by the readers like you! Thank you!! As for Ms. Mckennett, she had inspired MANY on my tales--not just this seriese--and much of my life as of late. One of my Favorites now is the 7 Rejoyces of Mary. Ah, well, time to start my day, get some things done and then work on the re-write....I am so excited about it! After it is posted (some chapters down the road yet) I will share what was origionally intentded. Thank you again! ~G
huh, now I feel I should apologize for the last comment. Didn't I say something about me speaking first and regretting later? yeah well... *sigh* ... I'm sorry!
I thought of deleting the comment and writing a new one but I think the first reaction, the honest reaction of a reader is of greatest importance for an author, so I'll leave it...
With the explanation Faramir gives, the behavior of Imrahil, Lothiriel and even Beriedis are rather understandable and realistic. Looking back in history we can always see examples of societies who think themselves superior. So much the more surprising that Lothiriel turned out the way she did, not adapting her chaperone's opinions.
Enough of that for now: I was so smiling over Eomer's letter. He made himself quite vulnerable, telling her so openly about his feelings. But what actually made me smile was that I don't think that this made him uncomfortable. I think it needs a very strong personality to be able to show one's weakness and be self-confident at the same time. Most eligible bachelor of Rohan. Ha! Imrahil should be overjoyed that Lothiriel caught his attention! ... sorry, that were my fingers moving of their own volition again ;-)
Author's Response: I am SO happy you did not delete the other comment! That is what I try to do with my writing...evoke reactions and then, justify it all. Therefore there is no need to appologize. While Lothiriel has Lady Beriedis (who I might add really is not old) she does have 3 brothers who love her and help buffer. Well, you will have to wait for my little plot change and who knows...maybe I'll change my mind again and keep it as is...but I think I like the new direction and twist...more soon! ~G
To be honest, I do not understand the Prince. If he directly saw how Beriedis acted towards Eomer I think it would have been his duty to interfere. It's not a trifle if the guest in a friendly kingdom starts to insult the *king* of all people, and this time her behaviour was beyond the subtle unfriendliness.
If one is accustomed to the court life as she as a chaperone should be, that is not only scandalous, its dangerous, at least for her own status. By now it should have been clear to her how things are standing. Eomer would have had the right to demand her politeness. And if he is too cautious to do it so as not to destroy his chances with Lothiriel it would have been the duty of her father to say something, if only a small "Beriedis, you are overstepping your boundaries." and be done with it.
Even if he is now putting Beriedis in her place quietly, an open apology would be due to a king, more than that: an ally, even one who is thought to be a barbarian (maybe especially then, I would not like to insult someone in their own country when I thought they had not mastered their feelings).
I would so immediately dismiss her if I was Imrahil... ;-)
Please take no offence, i am a very hot tempered person and I understand completely that Imrahil is not. He had probably never really the time with all his duties to see Beriedis for the dolled-up old bag that she is and right now he probably doesn't want to cause a scene. Also he saw it now for the first time and so I am totally aware that my reaction would be far too overdrawn ;-) but hey, that's me: first speaking/acting then regretting :D
And I still think she enriches the story, so do not concern yourself with my rambling!
Hmmmm, I think she would get along quite nicely with Ethelfled, or maybe not, seeing as two harridans rarely got along. But to think they could meet in the future and make each other's life hell ... wouldn't that be something? ;-)
hem, yeah, well ... That all being said: that was a sweet moment between Eomer and Lothiriel, and keeping up correspondence is a great idea. Eomer must be so elated that she applies herself also.
On an afterthought: sorry for that essay! Well, I am going now to read the next chapter...
Author's Response: All good points but I know you already read the next chapter so... let me just say I like your essays and once again, you have cause a bunny! Although this one is a change in what I have already written and involves Beriedis. I'll explain after the fact. Now keep in mind that Writing and a Ride (which is what Eomer has always been) do not necessarily go together--it is a quite a request on her part as Book learning in Rohan comes second (in my opinion) to practical learning. The fact that she is so learned could be intimidatin. Well, on to the next chapter...
Alright, I don't have much time, so I will keep this short. It is so sweet this chapter, there is not much I can say. I am happy Faramir made some things clear to Eomer concerning Dol Amroth and Lothiriel and their lifestyle and everything. Maybe he will understand a bit better now and can act accordingly. The two letters Eomer and Lothiriel exchanged are really sweet and I think naming the kitten Scamp is a nice idea.
Author's Response: Thanks--glad you like the letters. Someone mentioned that Eomer's was so formal. Writing is not his strong suite and he does not wish to make waves. However, I deleted a part of Faramir's letter that warns Eomer that Lothiriel has little privacy--watch what he writes. I did the edits -after- I wrote the other letters which is why Eomer's is a bit cool. Anywhay, now it shall be off to Ithilien for Eowyn's wedding!
That was so sweet. He really is a clever king. And Lothiriel liked it, that is what counts. And this watchdog of hers takes her job a little bit too seriously. I mean, chaperoning is one thing, but making such simple decisions like accepting or not accepting a gift, that is out of her limit. I believe the princess to be old enough to make such decisions on her own. Really, that Beriedis needs a husband herself.
Author's Response: Ah, but she does not over step her bounds! That is just it and that is in part why Lothiriel does not speak out. You will get a better understanding of Beriedis' roll very soon. It really is a diference in cultures and Eomer will have to work carefully lest he insult the princess' upbringing--like Beriedis did Eowyns in the healing halls. While love may be surpreme, he is a king and she the daughter of a Prince who is of Numinorean and elvin desent...they can not escape politics. More soon and with some answers...I hope! ~G
What can I say? I'm a sucker for an attractive man with little furry animals at the best of times, but I'll admit the "I will die" comment was probably hormonally fueled. *g*
So cute, and as Eowyn pointed out, clever (though I'll be honest and say that when Lothiriel asked how he knew, I pictured Graham Chapman in "The Holy Grail" saying "you have to know these things when you're a king" - sorry). I absolutely love the siblings. I've always secretly hoped someone would find a long-lost Tolkien manuscript of the Rohirrim. I'd absolutely devour it.
Author's Response: Thank you! Until this series popped into my head (thanks to Loreena McKennitt's ‘Wind that shakes the Barley’ CD) I never paid them much mind (although I liked Éomer) and when I watched the movies again to gain some feeling for them...I was hooked! I was impressed with the depth of the siblings relationship depicted in very subtle ways in the movie...maybe I noticed it because I have a big brother and our relationship is like that. Any way...I had similar thoughts going through my head when Éomer answered Lothiriel, too-LOL! Now about "to die" are you familiar with the Shakespearean term? Used more often in Anthony and Cleopatra? "To die" (when Cleo says she would die a 1,000 times over) was actually referring to...yep, you might have guessed it...orgasms! yep so feel free "to die" whenever Éomer or any Rohirrim is about! Smiles! ~G
Naughty! Eomer was like a child who is told that he'll get everything he writes into his letter to Santa Claus ... now he only needs to write the letter.
The siblings were also very beautifully portrayed, I hope you know that. I could really see Eomer hiding and bustling with glee in one moment and then being stunned at a careless remark in the next. Quite hilarious, really!
I was a little bit surprised, though, that you gave up the teasing with the Arathea-Eomer-Lothiriel problem so early in the story. I didn't expect you to. But I am certainly not one to object! ;-) I'll welcome everything that helps Eomer-our-most-eligible-bachelor-in-Rohan to get happy rather sooner than later and not have him suffer unnecessarily!
Author's Response: I am trying bery hard to keep eomer and Eowyn's relationship true--you can really see it in te movies. That's what he gets for eaves dropping--but Eowyn did not mean to cut her brother down but only acknowledge his outward personality then give a glimps to his softer side. Since I needed to keep everything in line so to speak, I could not really drapp arathea in more than necessary and while she will be around, by this stage of the story Rohan already know she is not his intedned queen. Now that does not mean smooth sailing just yet... ~G
What a sweet chapter. And if he gives her that kitten I will die. :-)
Author's Response: Thank you and, pleas don't die but you can kinda see where this is leading...although, there is Lady Beriedis to contend with and I assure you she does NOT think Eomer worthy of Lothiriel--king or not. More really soon so hang tight ;) ~G
ok all together, one, two, three: aaaaaaawwwwwwwww!
OK, that done .. wait a moment I have to gather myself .. ok now.
First of all, the behaviour between Eomer and his sister, though she doesn't know he's there, is very good. It fits actually to everything Tolkien himself says about them.
What I thin kEowyn forgot to mention is that her brother is a romantic at heart. I think I know what he plans with that kitten but we'll see. But if Eomer listened carefully to this female bonding, alright not so carefully, it was quite obvious, he might have gotten the point that Lothiriel feels like him. Now he's one step ahead of her, he knows her feelings, she doesn't know his. I am waiting impatiently how you will make Eomer make that clear to her.
Author's Response: Thank you very much! It means a lot that I was able to keep in line with what Tolkien himself says--that is always a goal. I like their interactoin during te movie a lot (I need to go back and re-read the actual books) and use that as inspiration. Eomer has a little plan, HOWEVER, he still has to get past Lady Beriedis and soon you will see excatly how much control she has over Lothiriel's life! After all, Imrahil keeps her around so she cannot be too out of line. ~G
I just love Gamling. If he didn't ahve Aglaril ...
No, really. Gamling and Aglaril are so sweet with each other, I wish something like that for Eomer, too. But knowing you, he will get it.
But really, Gamling thinks about everything. Bringing the princess incognito into the "Den" and seeing her home safely and without a scandal. Looks like he did that many, many times before. Knowing Eowyn, I actually believe it.
When I read you part about the wrapped in a cloak thing I briefly wondered if you knew Zee's story. I have read it, too but not at OEAM but AFF, not a site I usually frequent but I was nudged there for the story. So, I knew at once what you meant when you wrote that wrapped in a cloak thing.
Hopefully we will get some new, exciting thing in the next chapter.
Author's Response: Gamling is a favorite of many---including me!! since his story was the shortest, I thought those two needed to show up again and I am glad their interaction works. As a captain, who ever was hidden in his cloak, and in fron of Aglaril would definately be "no one's business" although I had thought of having Elfhelm push the envelope a bit--being a Marshal and all but that would have drawn out the chapter and there is pleanty to go yet! Love Zee's story...started reading it after I posted Gamling's story and then stopped when Lothiriel showed up. I was struggling with my own Lothiriel and did not to be infulenced--Zee writes her characters so well! More to post soon! ~G
Sweet. Loved the interactions between Aglaril and Gamling!
Now I wonder if our "watchdog" will be suspicious when Lothiriel is so obviously not well rested...
Author's Response: I always like that pairing and Gamling is so much a part of Eomer's life her just had to be involved! The watchdog...Lothiriel knows how to pretend...as long as she doesn't have bags under her eyes! lol
Uh, a conspiracy, I love it. I wonder if Eomer will recognize her, even if she is "masked". But Gamling surely is the man for a joke. All I can do is hope that this doesn't backfire.
I very much like the way you describe the king as being alone and hopeless and maybe even a bit depressive. Maybe the princess will take pity on him lol
Author's Response: Thank you. Given everything that happened I cannot imagine that Eomer would not suffer from some mild depression! Lothiriel is a becon, though--IF Lady Beriedis can be kept at bay! Gamling is a good man who has seen and lived much--including surviving Eowyn's growing up--lol. I have one more post before a few days off for our Thanksgiving. Enjoy!
Oh god ... that sweet little minx ;-)
I wonder what Eomer will have to say to that ... though I would not put it beyond Gamling and Aglaril to steer him into a certain direction. And for Lothiriel they are probably the ideal companions for such a youthful escapade: old enough for parental feelings, experienced enough to caution her and stop her from being caught and yet empathetic enough to indulge her. Could have ended rather chaotically with Elfhelm, I guess ;-) ... which makes me kinda sorry that it was not Elfhelm who found her out :D
On another thought: She must have been so nervous at being caught. After all I would be if I thought I had to face Beriedis and confess to all of my sins and failings and after that face a life-long imprisonment!
Author's Response: Could not make her a "bad" girl, but she does need to have a little spunk if she is to capture Eomer! funny that you should mention Elfhelm (you will see why in the next chapter) I did intentionally have Gamling find discover her. He is loyal to Eomer and would do what ever necessary to keep any heat off the youn man. And you are right--he and Aglaril are perfect chaperons and your reasoing is exactly why they are both there. Getting caught would be bad---very bad not just for her but for Eomer and his relations with Dol Amroth! And if Beriedis finds out? Well, let's not go there right now! Thanks again :) ~G
ok, let me sum some things up. Eowyn and Faramir are apparently conspiring over something. Eomer and Lothiriel like each other and Imrahil is not displeased.
That looks ... complicated.I guess it will be funny and I hope there will be some kind of trouble and misunderstanding. I mean, there was before. Why should Eomer get it easy, even if he is the king?
But this was a wonderful chapter with very nice scenes and ideas and all was (as always) destroyed by that woman!! I hate her. Well, not really but she is kind of annoying.
Author's Response: That is fairly accurate although, Inrahil does not dislike Eomer, but he is not looking for a match there. He hired Beriedis to educate his daughter and to pick a suitable suitor. He is a little hand's off and I think I might have to make the more clear in up coming chapters. There will be thier share of issues, but thiss pair has to deal with something no other pairing has has to...a very long distance between them. Dol Amroth is quite remote and there are few opportunities for them to meet. Eomer is now king and cannot just up an take a trip. Since Beriedis does not think Eomer (king that he is) is a suitable match, she will most likely not agree to traveling to Rohan and if she does not go...Lothiriel does not go. But have faith--we already know how it all turns out! ~G
Beriedis is like a bucket of ice cold water, isn't she? In regard to all intents and purposes such a device could be put to ;-) poor Eomer.
And Faramir as a matchmaker, that's rich ... although I never pictured him as meddlesome. He'll probably be more subtle and help on the Gondorian part (Imrahil, Beriedis and Lothirirel) ... ah, I'll wait for the next chapters to find out ;-)
Author's Response: She is definately a mood killer! But always remember: Rohirrim are stubborn! You are right, Faramir is not one to meddle out right, but he can put in a good word for Eomer. He is kin to Lothiriel and might have some pull or at least could balance Beriedis. We all know what can happen when Eowyn sets her mind on something, though....poor Eomer? Well, time will tell and I will post more today or tomorrow. Thanks again! ~G
Is it possible the Ladies Beriedis and Ethelfled are related? They certainly seem to be cut from similar cloth. *g*
On a happier note, IMHO, any story where Eowyn (a conscious one, that is) makes an appearance, however brief, is a good one.
Author's Response: The two doo seem very similar however, Lady Berdiedis' motives are at least honorable--she wants the best for Lothiriel and looks to serve her lord as best as she possibly can as a Lady of Dol Amroth. I think she has little experience outside of the coastal region so her opinions are based on an ignorance that might not be uncommon by the people of Southern Gondor--they are located quite apart from everyone else. As for Éowyn, I am glad you enjoy her. She will be popping up here and there I assure you. Thanks for reading and taking the time to review!
I thought that was awfully short and didn't seem to fit the chapter title. :-D
IMHO, one can never have enough Rohirrim, and glimpses into their thought processes are a nice treat.
Author's Response: Thanks! Glad you went back to catch the rest of it. Eomer and his men left after the war for a spell---that's when 'The Blacksmith's Daughter' takes place. So there is a little jump forward to Elessar's wedding (ch4) and then a jupm to Theoden's funeral (ch 5)---the joy of a long distance relationship and trying to write it! ;) Hanging there for more... ~G
I like the way you pick up the idea with Arathea and Eomer being a couple (or not). It is funny that even Lothiriel thinks this because everyone in Rohan did when the new king brought her home with him. It is quite early but I think both of them have an interest in the other which is good. Although I guess you will make them suffer a bit, as all the others did, too. I can't wait to see what will happen next.
Author's Response: I am trying very had to keep all the stories connected and follow the same timeline. Eomer really is well past the time he should be married so it is no wonder that everyone is trying to marry him off now that the war is over AND he is king! Now eomer has suffered quite a bit already so I will not be overly cule, but Lothiriel will have her share trials to get what she wants. I will be posting more hopefully tomorrow. ~G