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It was such a surprise to get a new chapter for this - but a welcome one! :)
While I love to read about Feanor, I can't help but feel glad that I don't have to ever meet him in person. *g* He is just too much, even for Fingolfin, Glorfindel and Maglor combined.
And I just love this description:
Laurëfindë lay in his spill of gilt hair like a lion whom had battled another more powerful.
(oh, and a small tip that might be helpful, if you use something like Open Office or Googledocs for writing, there is a 'find & replace' function. So you could just write 'Feanor' throughout the chapter and when you are finished, do a find&replace for 'Feanor' with 'Fëanor'. That's how I do it, because I'm lazy. ;)
Author's Response: Thank-you so much for the review, Esteliel.
Lol, I would 'run away' rather than personally meet Feanor. I don't have the energy to cope. XD
I had to expand a little as the original story was co-written and I had to delete that part. Even if it was just for my own satisfaction I wanted to tie it in with Glorfindel's conversation with Gil and Tin in LoL, long after. I said to Anwyn I am not sure if there will be any more, as I refer back to this time in LoL and DP, but I am leaving it as unfinished, just in case. Possibly a later chapter with feanor and Glorfindel.
I used Open Office. Thank-you for the tip! I will use it next time. I got so used to copy/paste originally, but it is a bit of a pain.
You have just made me cry again! I'm almost afraid now of what you will come up with for the new story, as with this as a starting point, I foresee many more tears.
*hugs Van and Elgalad* Neither of them deserve this kind of pain. :( You don't want to know what I wish I could do to Sauron...
Author's Response: I am sorry, :( I know I said no-one dies, and then I made it seem completely bleak, but I had to do it like this.
I thought I would keep this as a kind of page-holder and not explain very much, although many things will be revealed in the story.
Thank-you so much for reviewing.
I just want to say it here as well - I love this story to bits and am so completely thrilled you like my Legolas enough to use him for this!
Even Glorfindel doesn't dare to say anything because even he has to admit that Van and Legolas together are just *hot*! ;)
Author's Response: It thrills me that you like it so far. I do so devour your stories and so love both Legolas and Glorfindel in them, it's such an engrossing and evolving tale apart from being damned hot and thought provoking, that I find it very easy to imagine Legolas.
it seems Van also likes your Legolas, and the nipple rings are just the icing on the cake d;-) ( so at least your Glorfindel and van have the same taste, even if Glorfindel would be after him with a very big sword XD
Squee, Van and Elgalad in this chapter!!
This just made me melt, it's really all I love about them:
“I like to hold thee.” The reply was soft and something in it – a thread of need in one whom had taught himself not to need, wound itself around Elgalad's heart, and he settled against Vanimórë, his head against the crook of the strong neck, where he could feel the pulse, breathe in the exotic aroma that had slipped into his dreams over the long years of their separation. He felt the brush of lips on the crown of his head and felt, as he had since childhood, that he was both held by the world, and held it, and was complete.
They are so perfect together, and I enjoy each and every small glimpse we get into their life here. ♥
Of course, euqually as fascinating is the conversation Celegorm has with Feanor. Celegrm just doesn't get it, does he, that Finrod swore an oath just as he did... But then, of course, the Noldor all seem to be uniquely selfish in a way (well, selfish is maybe the wrong way, but they do seem to be mostly obsessed with themselves, their families and their creations), so no wonder Celegorm seems to think that Finrod should just have abandoned Beren for his embrace.
I wonder what Finrod will have to say to that when they meet again - I like Feanor's suggestion of a flogging. *eg*
Author's Response: They are so perfect together, and I enjoy each and every small glimpse we get into their life here. b29;
Thank-you so much, Esteliel. :)
I realized that in this story, there are some years of relative peace, rather than the more fast pace of Dark Prince series, so there was an opportunity to write something about Van and Elgalad learning to be together, as it is strange for both of them, even though Van raised him, Elgalad was very young then, and they've been apart a long time. I am so glad you enjoyed it.
Yes, Celegorm has that arrogance which refuses to let him admit Finrod's oath was just as binding as his own - all he's allowing himself to see is that Finrod put some-one else before him.
I think Celegorm still believes Finrod ought to apologize, but I feel it will not be like that at all.
Thank you so much for reviewing. :)
Actually, it is just as well I decided to skim that Legolas flashback, since your birthday fic has given me a perfect opportunity to write about it in greater detail. It will fit into that fic very well (I hope) and I will link to it from this story, as it is really going to be an unwritten chapter or two.
*squees* That sounds absolutely perfect! I feel almost like a little child again, counting down the days to my birthday now! :)
It makes me sad to think of Vanimórë and Elgalad's life from Tanith onward, so writing snippets of them in these 25 years feels almost like giving them more time together.:(
Me too, they just deserve so much more. :/ But the knowledge of their eventual fate makes these moments of happiness just so much more poignant.
I liked Elrond's reaction too, to Glorfindel's little "surprise"... Maeglin. It truly looks like he won't have an easy time in Imladris (but then, why should he have? Maybe living in such close proximity to people whose fathers/grandfathers he would have killed will prove a learning experience for him.)
Author's Response: I hope the fic is okay. I realized it was the ideal place to write about Glorfindel and Legolas at the beginning, as certainly Finrod would want to know :)
There is a poignancy for me in writing of Van and Elgalad, but these years, which I didn't cover, will be quite full for them, I think.
Imladris will have a definite atmosphere for a while. I think Glorfindel knew there was no easy way to introduce Maeglin so (showing some Finwion arrogance) just decided to explode him on Elrond - and the others (Legolas, Tindómion, Elladan and Elrohir)
have not even got there yet. Of course Maeglin's best defense is Aredhel, which his pridwe does not like at all, even though he loves her.
Thank-you again!!
Ohhhhhh, you posted a new chapter! Yay! You have no idea how pleased I am whenever I see there's an update! :)
It was wonderful to see Elgalad again... They are just so heartbreakingly perfect together, there is such a beauty to them:
“Didst thou n-never think of m-me?”
“I tried not to,” the words slipped out against silvery hair.“But thou wert always there, within me.”
And of course, I was absolutely delighted to see Legolas remembering more of their backstory, even though it was just a tantalizing glimpse of him stealing naked into Glorfindel's bed. I don't blame Glorfindel for being unable to resist. ;)
Then there was all the discovery and pain and shattering pleasure of what followed, and love...He twisted restlessly and felt a smile in his mind, a promise.
What I wouldn't give to be able to dream of that tonight! ;)
I also really liked to see Fingolfin and Maglor talking and offering each other support. It's a strange situation they are in, both loving Feanor who is brother or father, and yet there would probably be no one else who could understand what the other felt, what it is like to be caught in the magnetism of Feanor.
Author's Response: Thank-you Esteliel!
Actually, it is just as well I decided to skim that Legolas flashback, since your birthday fic has given me a perfect opportunity to write about it in greater detail. It will fit into that fic very well (I hope) and I will link to it from this story, as it is really going to be an unwritten chapter or two.
It makes me sad to think of Vanimórë and Elgalad's life from Tanith onward, so writing snippets of them in these 25 years feels almost like giving them more time together.:(
Yes, Fingolfin and Maglor do understand one another, and yes, probably better than any-one, both living with guilt, but both irresistibly attracted to Fëanor, which they admit. They don't have to hide it, which is also a relief, I think. There is a lot of sympathy, one for the other in their relationship.
Thank-you so much for reviewing.
Oh, I am so glad I decided to have a look at this site when I came back today - two new chapters at once!
I loved that Finrod gave Legolas a horse.... and ohh, I could kiss Feanor for the condition he demands for his compliance! *g* It was lovely to get more of Glorfindel and Legolas' backstory, so thank you, Feanor! ;)
He was very tall, powerful as a sunrise, and as approachable.
That is such an amazing description of Glorfindel!
Glorfindel raised a hand. “Not now. There is much to do.” And he did not wish Fëanor to dwell on the image of Legolas in bed.
Awww, Glorfindel... Now I will have to dwell on that image instead. *sighs*
The more we hear of them, the more I come to like young Túrin's parents. I just hope Lorh will not cause trouble for them... :/
I also very very much liked Aredhel hitting Maeglin; it is truly the least he deserves, and this must be very hard for her - loving her son, and yet knowing that he is responsible for the death of her brother and her people.
Seeing Glorfindel able to talk to Finrod was maybe the best surprise of the chapters. I have such a weak spot for Finrod, and I am glad that Glorfindel has his counsel and support at least in such a way, because it must be very lonely in his position.
Rosriel and Borniven... Gah, I have no words for them, save that I hope that their punishment will be as harsh as their deeds. :/
Author's Response: Thank-you so much :)
Not that Fëanor wouldn't have agreed to what Glorfindel asked anyway, as it was in his own interests, but he is curious. d;-) I am sure the rest will come later :D
I am glad you liked the description of Glorfindel, I thought it sounded like how he would appear.
I thought it would be a good thing for him to be able to speak to Finrod, even if they're separated. Of course he has Legolas too, but an older brother always feels like an older brother I suppose, and Glorfindel loves him, so Finrod is a comfort.
Lorh is going to be trouble, no doubt, but until he is no-one is going to do anything, and although Carreg put a stop to him touching Cell, he's very young himself and it would go against the grain to just get rid of some-one. The same applies to the Elves. Van would do it without blinking, XD but there's a reason for all things and a time for everything.
Aredhel is in a really invidious position, yes, she loves her son, but hates what he did. I also think it's a complete contrast to Rosriel, that whatever Maeglin did, Aredhel cannot help but love him even if she does want to ding him around the ear. I liken Rosriel and Borniven to leaving a bottle of milk on the doorstep month after month, some very odd processes go on inside it, beside it going sour.
Thank-you, and I hope you have a good day tomorrow; wall-to-wall Tolkien :)
OMG! I can't believe how you still manage to surprise me!! Celegorm and Finrod?? I never would have thought that!
Needless to say, I am very *very* curious now where you will take this!
This chapter was such a surprise, with so many things I loved... Beren for one thing, who could quickly become a favourite character, as beautiful as you write him! And I loved the scene where they try to quiet baby Turin, and Glorfindel has to stop Elrond from killing him. I wondered what had gotten into Elornd there for a second...
(Argh, and I can't believe Gil would have sex with Vorimoro, but not with Tin. Damn bullheaded Noldor!)
This is really an amazing (and surprising!) chapter, I'll have to reread it right away tomorrow morning! :)
Author's Response: Thank-you Esteliel. There were some surprises in this chapter, but they are all 'grist to the mill'.
I am afraid Gil-galad is deliberately trying to force Tin into rage. They know one another too well for Tin not to be aware of *something*.We'll just what to see what his reactions are. Although Gil and Vórimoro are also close friends, and are having a mutually plasurable experience. ( I went and read a lot of Q&A on that Minitaur site, and the guy who writes it said men don't have the same feelings about sex as most women, and can just want sex without it meaning more than just that - so this is what is happening with Gil and Vórimoro. There will not be any guilt about it.
Where possible, I like to draw ideas from canon, and when I thought of the possibilities beneath Celegorm and Curufin going to Nargothrond, I thought 'hmmm'. More will be explained in the next chapter. I had written more but decided to leave it there.
I hoped you would like Beleg. I have an image of him in my mind as Legolas (and Elgalad's ancestor which is very beautiful)
Thank-you so much for the review. :)
I just wish Tin and Gil wouldn't be so stupid, but I know that's too much to ask for. ;) At least I have the consolation to already know that they'll give in at last.
I'm really really curious now for more of that backstory of Celegorm... The Feanorians all aren't exactly rational, so it would make sense that Celegorm would try to take over the kingdom of the one he loves. *g*
To see Beren still thinking of Turin after such a long time... Such a sad fate for both of them, I hope this will be a happier life for them. I loved that Orome gave him another bow!
Author's Response: I just wish Tin and Gil wouldn't be so stupid, but I know that's too much to ask for. ;)
They are like rams butting heads, I think. And Tin has not worked out yet that it does not matter who submits, either/or but then, since neither have been able to discover it, that is not surprising. Possibly a talk with some-one will be coming up, Fingolfin maybe, he sees nothing wrong in submitting to Fëanor - er, well, yes, he does morally, but he does not feel it makes him weak or anything.
I had this idea niggling at me, back when I was writing of Finrod giving Glorfindel his name in Tirion, and the idea I had that Finrod would be utterly determined not to leave Valinor.
On the surface it looked like a malicious power grab in Nargothrond, but what if there was more to it than that? We know Finrod did not *do* anything, as he was not condemned to the Void - so, what if it was not malice that motivated Celegorm?
I am working on that at the moment, and might have it up by the weekend, as it is coming quite easily.
Thank-you so much again for the review. :)
What an absolutely amazing chapter - now you've gone and turned me into a Celegorm fan. ;) I'm still completely overwhelmed by your lush descriptions, and the tension in this chapter!
Though I love Maglor for pointing out this: “Hells, brother, I think Lúthien escaped lightly if rejection of thee is paid for by death!”
It's true after all - I think Celegorm might be a bit of a drama queen. *g* Though I don't doubt his passion for Finrod; he seems as single-minded and obsessive as all the rest of the family.
When I learned he had died I cursed him as I wept.
And that is just so heartbreaking - no matter what he has done, you've really made me feel for him here. :(
Author's Response: Oh, thank-you so much, Esteliel!
I wanted to write a small flashback, although the history between those two went back a long time. Finrod was not as Tin is with Gil-galad; he erected a much more impermeable barrier, and Glorfindel's decision to disown himself from his father annealed it. Of course it's illogical to love some-one and then turn and act as Celegorm later did to Finrod in Nargothrond, but then, love is not logical and Celegorm is just as complex as all his family, lol. Which I love exploring. d;-)
Since there will, at some point, be a meeting between these two, I wanted to get a little of the history in first.
Thank-you so much for taking the time to review.
This was a wonderful chapter - it was great to see more of Beleg! I really was annoyed by Glorfindel's presumption as well when he couldn't go and visit Turin's grave to say his good-bye... But then, what a surprise will wait for him in Imladris!
It's so strange to think of him meeting his great grandson, and to imagine them looking as if they were the same age. I wonder what Thranduil will think when he hears that his grandfather has returned.
As to Feanor and Fingolfin... Well. No surprise there. Those Finweans don't need others to tormemt them, they've perfected the art of it themselves. *g* Still, even if they drive me crazy with their games sometimes, I can't help but love them. Especially that Gil tinks of Tin as a falcon whose feathers he wants to ruffle - I think once Tin finds out about Vorimoro, Gil will have to be careful or his falcon will bite off his fingers. ;)
And this is just so true - it should be the family motto, really: *snickers*
“I was asking my grandfather how one handles a Fëanorion.” The reply was something of a challenge. Fëanor glanced back at Fingolfin, then moved to Gil-galad and leaned down to murmur in his ear, “One does not handle us, we handle thee.”
Author's Response: *I really was annoyed by Glorfindel's presumption as well when he couldn't go and visit Turin's grave to say his good-bye.*
I think there's a reason for that, which will be dealt with in a rather different way in the future. Beleg will definitely go there - just not yet. Tor Fuin and Tol Morwen will be in forthcoming chapters.
There was also the time factor. People are going to wonder why Aredhel stayed, and Glorfindel did not want them to have enough time to go to Imladris and ask her. (Turgon especially XD) They've lingered a fairly long time and Glorfindel's motives were pure, he does not think Beleg needs more hurt, rather he wanted to send him on his way without telling him precisely what waits for him. Although I think Beleg was moved by Legolas rather than Glorfindel. So he will be on his way.
Lol, I don't know if Tin would ask outright, but he will definitely suspect - it's just as well they are leaving - and not on the same ship. d;-)
I get the sense that Fëanor is playing, that he knows that Fingolfin is his and just enjoys their sparring. :)
Thank-you so much for the review.
Thank-you
Yay, another chapter! I think this is my favourite way to spend an evening, all comfortable in my chair, with a hot grain-filled pillow (because it's still cold *shivers*) and an exciting new chapter to devour!
My favourite bit in this was definitely Celegorm - the way he obsesses about Finrod should be creepy, but instead I've come to like him a lot. I love the way Feanor dealt with him, though, and I actually laughed when instead of rueing what he had done, he once again blamed Finrod for what had happened! Oh, it will be quite explosive if they ever meet again, I think. *g*
Author's Response: *..the way he obsesses about Finrod should be creepy, but instead I've come to like him a lot. I love the way Feanor dealt with him, though, and I actually laughed when instead of rueing what he had done, he once again blamed Finrod for what had happened! Oh, it will be quite explosive if they ever meet again, I think. *g**
Thank-you so much Esteliel. :) Lol, it will indeed be somewhat explosive *when* they meet again, although you're quite right, the way Celegorm turns around and blames Finrod is I think, somewhat typical of him and perhaps his father. Still, he is *obsessing* yes, and is not going to stop until this is resolved, in whatever way :)
Thank-you for taking the time to leave a review again :)
Arrrgh, how can you end it there? Now that's an evil cliffhanger!
Poor Maeglin - and I didn't think I'd ever say such a thing! There is quite a contrast between how he was greeted and treated in Gondolin and now in Imladris... Hopefully one day he'll be able to prove himself trustworthy after all.
I also wonder how Carreg and Cell will react to the connection between Túrin and Beleg. Already they worry that there won't be enough other mortals around when Túrin grows up...
Author's Response: There will be some Mortals, I am sure. My belief is that not all the Dúnedain would pack up lock and stock and head to Gondor, after all Arnor was their land, and Aragorn was to rule both Gondor and Arnor.
But there have to be certain mirrors, and Túrin being raised in an Elven realm is one of them. :)
Although his mother especially knows old tales, I think it will be some years before they know enough to eventually put things together, perhaps learning Sindarin and being able to read old scrolls and books.
Aredhel is being the positive one of the two when it comes to her son. I feel she is very strong-minded, but other things are in play :)
Thank-you so much for the review!
Oh wow, that KISS... *fans herself*
No wonder Celegorm never got over his obsession, with that tension sizzling between them... This is quickly becoming one of my favourite pairings of yours!
I absolutely loved the chapter - also Feanor and Fingolfin, who are always so good together! It was great to see Finrod confront Finarfin, and to tell him exactly what he thinks of him, and Manwe... But it's such a terrible place to stop!
Author's Response: Thank-you so much, Esteliel, I am so glad you are liking it! It is certainly very um..challenging to write, quite a sleigh-ride! And they have not even met yet. *Thud*
That chapter was quite long and since I need to spend some time on what happens now with Finrod, I needed to stop (and take a deep breath!)
The ironic thing is, Finrod is being pushed to go back to Middle-earth, not pulled by Glorfindel or Celegorm He is reaction as one does to some-one saying 'You will not do that' Except in a rather more dramatic way.
So we shall see where it goes from here. :)
Thank-you so much for the review.
So Beleg doesn't really realize yet that Turin is truly Turin - but that's for the better, I think, as it must be very uncomfortable to know someone you still love so much as a small child. In any case, as Men age so fast it will hopefully not seem long at all to Beleg.
I'm also really intrigued by what kind of 'test' is in wait for them in the future, and I'm glad Beleg has tried to befriend Maeglin. He is someone who really needs a friend, I think, especially if he does not want to fail whatever test is coming up for him in the future.
Author's Response: Thank-you Esteliel.
No, Beleg, I think, would not even consider the possibility this is Túrin, as this sort of thing just does not happen; well, in a sense Beren was reborn, but he had special dispensation, and it has been so very long. I don't think it would occur to Beleg at all, although he does see a pattern in this. Maeglin sees more of one, and I also think he believes that it cannot be as easy as reforging the sword and Túrin being reborn - there are too many shadows here.
Finrod! *squees*
I was so happy to finally see what is happening to him - and then you left us with another cliffhanger! But that lovely scene with Celegorm he remembers more than makes up for it.
His lips were surprisingly soft and warm, and the touch lingered a moment, settled light as a moth on Findaráto's mouth.
It wrung a shudder through him that sent ripples to the furthest edges of his world, and then broke through his carefully constructed beliefs that formed that world.
I love this... Your descriptions are so beautiful, and there is such sensuality to that scene, such an instant attraction between them. No wonder they could never forget the other, even though Finrod tried so hard.
I also *very* much enjoyed seeing Tindómion and Gil-galad face each other. *g* And this made me cheer:
Tindómion, without a word, without warning, kissed him, hard and brutally before walking on.
Hopefully, Gîl will not push him too far... The last thing they now need would be another kinslaying. ;)
Author's Response: Thank-you Esteliel. I am *so* glad the flashback scene with Finrod and Celegorm worked for you. I wanted it *light* but sensual, and the kind of 'flashpoint' beginning of their relationship. Also something that Finrod would remember very clearly.
Haha, Tin and Gil. Some-one might end up getting thrown over the side of the ship, yet. Tin is smoldering, but what just happened will give rise to some other questions among the Noldor, since almost all of them are confused.
Thank-you so much for the review. :)
Two chapters at once! You spoil us! ;) Although of course, even though you gave us two chapters, I still want to know what happens next! Your Finrod is so lovely, I just can't get enough of him.
I am so glad Orome came to his aid, and I wonder what Ingwe will now do, as "a prisoner released" - will he want to stay in Valinor, as it seems like sitting at the feet of the Valar all of this time was not entirely voluntary?
So many new questions... but what I'm looking forward to most is Finrod and Celegorm meeting again. That is cvertainly going to be volatile! *g*
Author's Response: Lol, it occurred to me, writing it that there are always more questions than answers XD
I hope (if I finish) to answer most of them, but perhaps not, as I like to leave some question.
Thank-you very much for your review!
I am so glad you like this version of Finrod. He will meet Celegorm (*cringe*) I already know how. When I was writing one of the earliest chapters it just came to me.
“Rosriel was stripped of womanhood by a Power,” Vanimórë's voice said. “I know of only one, greater than Varda Elentári, who could heal her and give her back what was stolen.”
Ohhh... I'm so curious what that is going to mean. Also, yay for Fingon and Maedhros' marriage being finally acknowledged! :)
I can't believe Rosriel would attack Gil - I wonder what Van has planned for her now, and if it will work. Even if she could be healed from Varda's poison, it will be hard to forgive her after all she has done...
Author's Response: Hi, Esteliel, and thank-you for reviewing.
Fëanor always meant, I think, to have Maedhros and Fingon's marriage declared valid as soon as possible, before Rosriel or her people could cause trouble, so he pushed. What happened after was a surprise, although in hindsight, perhaps not.
I don't think Van will do anything to - or with - Rosriel, but he does know who might help her. (which is why I have to work on Earthblood at the same time, and I hope I won't get the two chapters mixed XD)
I loved the chapter! At first Van's amazing dance and your beautiful, rich introduction of the Mother, and then Celegorm starting to argue with Glorfindel once more! Although it is indeed nice to see Celegorm worry so much about whether Finrod would not rather stay with his wife... *g*
Of course, the last part of the chapter was the biggest surprise - so New Cuivienen is already settled by Elured, Elurin and Daeron? Won't that be a surprise to Celegorm... He'll not just have to worry about Finrod alone any longer, it seems like an even bigger problem has just sprung up for him. I'm really curious what's going to happen with them all!
Author's Response: Thank-you for your review, Esteliel. :)
I am glad the chapter worked, as it was quite a long one.
I have a map of Middle-earth where I placed New Cuiviénen, and should probably put a link up. There is a land of woods and hills (it looks like) on the south-west shores of the inland sea, so it is a very long way from where the Noldor have set up their temporary camp, but technically part of their territory. Elured and Elurin must have been away on a long hunting trip to see them, but see them they did, and Elven eyesight being so keen, they didn't need to be on top of the Noldor to see the banners. So yes XD Celegorm particularly, is going to have more problems.
Again thank-you for the review. :)
If Amarie doesn't want Finrod - can I have him? I know, I know, Celegorm would kill me, but I'm so in love! I can't wait to see what happens when he returns. :)
It was also fascinating to see more of the twins' past. No wonder they are so broken! I can believe that Celegorm might have killed them - but certainly he would never have raped them. I wonder if the servant is still alive; if yes, I think Celegom would love to kill him himself.
Author's Response: *If Amarie doesn't want Finrod - can I have him? I know, I know, Celegorm would kill me, but I'm so in love!*
Heeh. I am really enjoying writing of him. I will hold your coat if you have to fight Celegorm.
I think Celegorm would be rather floored if he realized what had happened to Elured and Elurin and how they think of him. He would expect hate, but not the monster their minds have made of him, but they were very young and were told he was going to kill them; with seeing their parents die and so much death, it has damaged them very much.
I believe Maedhros actually killed Saewon (Celegorm was already dead - it may be in Lords of the Light) but although he's definitely not one of Celegorm's people now, he may be around. :\
Thank-you so much for the review. :)