That's brilliant! And I love the connection with the rise of the ancient civilizations and the way Gondor turned within, it all rings so true. Superb and great food for thought, as always, although I am baffled as to Katie's depression and malaise. As ever, you tell just enough and not too much!
Author's Response: Well, you\'ll find out more as it progresses. Glad it seemed believable; I was a bit worried that it wouldn\'t.
Intriguing" And these days it is; an old fashioned courtship. Still, it's the quiet ones you have to watch, as my Nan always said d;-) I', always so glad to see an update, specially when it's the first thing in my inbox when I switch on the pc!
I still feel there is something * off * with Adele. I never liked her or the way she practically bullied her husband - although he should have had more backbone. The fact that he seemed to lose interest in all this just seems odd.
Molly is not a favorite of mine either, perhaps because I have more sympathy with Katie and want to know why she is suffering such melancholia lately .
Because I like such things I would almost imagine Adele was something to do with Sauron/Morgoth from the past, or was being influenced by them and manipulated Alex into marrying Molly to grab the last scion of the line of Aragorn. >.< Lol!
I know their courtship seems to be very sweet and old-fashioned, perhaps mirroring Aragorn and Arwen's, but so little passion...hmmm. Well, perhaps they will get over that, but Adele is always going to be one I would watch, and Molly is fairly shallow compared to Katie. That is not an indictment on your writing, by the way, rather a tribute to it. But I am almost disappointed with Alex for marrying some-one who seems rather one dimensional. Not that I think he should end up with Katie, there is something different about her, and much more fascinating, to me.
Poor Katie, ye Gods I hate those affairs too, marriages are almost as bad as funerals.
Perhaps the reason Gandalf did not come is true, and it does make sense or perhaps there is another reason he did not show? I love the way that when you write, you will give a very plausible reason for something, but also leave room for people to wonder.
It's a bit like watching an Agatha Christie play. People can do things perfectly innocently, but there might be another reason behind their actions. I can never see it, myself, so I always get a shock.
Author's Response: It was originally my plan to have Alex marry someone much shallower and more down-to-earth than Katie. Alex, despite the work he has done with Gandalf and the others, is still a normal guy, who\'s got a relatively normal place in society. Katie is not only too fascinating and what Sue authors would call \"speshul,\" but is pretty much unfit for marriage. She\'s devoted herself to Gandalf and to the mission, she\'s isolated herself from the world, and she is still a loner. Is she a bit mad? You be the judge.\r\n\r\nIt\'s true that Robert doesn\'t have much backbone. Almost without my control, he\'s become a contrast to Faris. Robert is one of those people who become overly excited about an issue and throw themselves heart and soul into it--hence his obsessive passion for Gandalf\'s project at the beginning, and his thoughtlessness concerning his family. However, the demands of real life and the bullying of his wife have cooled his enthusiasm.\r\n\r\nI am thinking that once this story is finished, I will write an expanded version of it, or else companions to it, explaining the background in more detail: Maglor\'s friendship with the Tilton ancestor and his subsequent disastrous life in America, the marriage of Robert and Adele, Gandalf\'s life on Middle-earth in the centuries before the story begins, etc. I don\'t know if this will improve the fic or ruin it, though, so I\'ve got to think about it for a while.\r\n\r\nI must thank you for your long, expanded reviews. Of the reviews I receive on this story--here and ff.net--yours are both the most cheering and the most helpful. You\'ve gotten into this story, and I like that. A typical reviewer at ff.net will gush about one chapter and leave me alone, or else send something incoherent (I\'ve been having some trouble with spam recently). So I\'m glad for your reviews and enthusiasm on this site.\r\n\r\nP.S. The next chapter, starring Katie and Gandalf, will be up sooner than usual. It was originally going to be part of the wedding chapter, but the chapter was becoming so long that I was losing my train of thought on it.
You could definitely write an expanded story or a prequel, I think that would be fascinating!
I started off writing one of mine at the time of the War of the Ring and then realized there was so much which happened before it which was not explained. It cleared things up for me, more than anything, when I wrote it, as it was long before I joined a fanfic site. It was just me wanting to know, and refer to.
I would love to read it certainly. The thing I really love about it, is that it does come across as a spotlight shone upon one part of what is a huge tapestry, with everything else in shadow; Faris' life, Maglor's, Elladan and Elrohir, Gandalf's, Tilton's.
Also the Mortal characters do come across as realistic, and because of that you do want to give them a shake, telling Tilton to stop being so henpecked, and Alex not to be such a boring conformist as getting married and Adele to stop being a controlling, selfish cow.
I don't actually feel that about Katie. She is not a Sue, there is something more mystical about her, which is very hard to describe; I would frankly have felt it a shame if it had been she who married Alex.
She does come across as obsessed, but I would be too, that's probably the easiest thing to understand about her from my point of view and a relationship would have to be along the lines of; '' I can fit you in Tuesday and Sunday afternoon. '' d;-) if it were me in that situation.
It also seems as if she * feels * things more deeply than any of the other Mortal character's and it's causing her to suffer. She may have, in a sense, discovered all she was so fascinated in is true, but it does not seem to give her a great deal of joy.
Author's Response: All right; after this is done, I\'ll be expanding the tale. I never planned to do it when I started this fic, but it seems like the characters, having been made, just won\'t leave me alone! And that\'s not a bad thing. It kind of reminds me of Aule and the dwarves.\r\n
\r\nI try to make my mortal characters realistic, with flaws as well as good points. The fact that at times you want to smack some of them for their stupidity is a positive sign, because it means that they\'re not boring, Sueish characters (because let\'s face it: you wan to smack Sues for a different reason). However, you don\'t want to pull a Robert Jordan with your characters, particularly your female characters. This author gave his characters plenty of faults, but made them extremely annoying and horrible, and his portrayal of women is one of the most offensive I have ever read in a fantasy book.
And the Muse takes over and you can't call your life your own, because it's theirs. [ Anwyn, who is on here, has this when she is in an operating room, lol and she get's furious and frustrated as she really cannot do anything, and has to be alert and on her toes. ]
My reaction to your O/C's, shows, I think that they are realistic, as they are normal reactions I would have with real people; they make you annoyed, irritated, impatient, sympathetic etc. You don't get the urge to impale them and toast them in front of a Balrog, which is usually the case with MS's, and yes, some character's in published books too. [ And Adele, because of Maglor; burn, woman! I don't care about your issues. d;-) ]
Did Robert Jordan wite The Wheel Of Time books? I've never read any of his work, but I have read some dreadful depictions of women characters in some fantasy works.
I think the real talent lies in taking quite ordinary people and making them interesting. What most of us do, - me included - is realize our OC's are going to be boring as mud if they're normal and so we start adding * speshulness * to them .
It's really something which is done when we either know we can't create an interesting character, or are too young to realize ordinary people can be just as fascinating as characters with powers.
Tolkien really played down what Gandalf actually was, and even when you have read all of LOTR it's not that clear. Yes, he defeated a Balrog, but unless you read earlier works it's not entirely clear what a Balrog is or why it was such a battle. To really understand you have to read the Silmarillion and UT about the Ainur, the Istari and Morgoth etc.
We know who Aragorn is, but again he is downplayed ( except at times, until the end ) and the Hobbit's don't need to be downplayed at all.
Of course Tolkien can create incredible and larger-than-life characters like Fėanor too, but he left them with that rather untouchable mystique and didn't unfold them for us.
He didn't have to use special powers or skills to hook a reader, and the best writers don't. He gave some glimpses and then moved the story on leaving us tantalized.
I think that is one of the reasons why I love this story. The OC's are people we all know, in different ways, so we can connect at once to them and they are in a story * now * which makes us feel we could be there, or it could be happening around us. And then it's placed in the grandeur of Tolkien's world - only later in the timeline, so to speak - so it presses all the right buttons.
I have to say I also love the portrayal of the canon characters, all of them, it's not even as if they hog the story, or take it over, only Gandalf is the real * constant *, but it's like one of those pen drawing's, where a few stroke is an exact portrait.
Author's Response: Thank you. Yes; Robert Jordan wrote \"The Wheel of Time\".
Ah poor Katie; and poor Gandalf in a way. I understand her feelings toward him and his own for Arda. He did seem to feel a great compassion and love for all the races.
Katie must feel completely hollow inside and abandoned. That is extremely sad. There is going to be an enormous gap in her life, which she already knows no-one can fill.
I feel that the * outside * would be dangerous to Katie of itself, with her sensitivity, even push her to suicide or madness. Whether Gandalf meant that or something darker, I don't know, but she is extremely vulnerable, I think. :(
Author's Response: Yes, she is. This is the main reason why she could not live a normal life.
Wow, what a beautiful description of the ship. But how sad for Katie and Faris. I really wonder what is soon going to happen if travel will become perilous. Another nail gnawing ending!
Author's Response: Thanks. The description of the ship I had to pull from the Silmarillion and from how I pictured it. I even checked \"Return of the King\" to see how the ship looked in the last chapter, but nothing was said about it except that it was \"white\". So I remembered the Teleri vessels and just went from there.\r\n
\r\nJust a quick note: there may be a long wait before the next chapter is posted. I know what\'s going to happen next, but I\'ve got to figure out how to type it up--and even then it might not turn out how I planned it. So when it\'s posted, any suggestions for improvement would be welcome.
Oh, this is getting very apocalyptic! I was wondering what might happen and bio-warfare does make sense ( although I always think that is like shooting oneself in the foot! )
Faris is emerging as both a haunted and now passionately resolute character who is perhaps trying to atone for what his people have done, but by that he may be risking the lives of others and his own.
Tense and sobering chapter ! Really enjoying this!
Author's Response: Yes, I thought bio-warfare would make the most sense. I wanted a rather slower apocalypse than something sudden like you\'d see in horror movies--although I\'m not sure if it\'s believable.
I think it's believable. I've always considered it something perhaps a terrorist organization might use, since extremists do not seem to care whether they die or not. If an actual regime used it I would think it was because they had an antivirus for it. We do know people experiment with these things, after all.
I've always thought it a terrible scenario, which could happen anyway, virus' are forever mutating and things like a flu pandemic , like the one in 1918 which killed more than WWI is overdue.
Looks like you have something as contagious as the common cold and as fatal as Ebola Zaire and that is a slate-wiper in humans and the most dangerous virus any-one could manufacture.
Author's Response: Yes, thank you for your feedback. In my expanded version of the story, I might examine the president\'s alliance with the terrorist organization; I know I really glossed over it in this one. In any case, this is a worse scenario than, say, a nuclear war, because you can build bomb shelters and evacuate cities to prepare for a nuclear disaster. With this, there\'s no way to prepare for it unless you get hte vaccine. Anyway, as I said before, something that doesn\'t wipe out humanity entirely is a more believable apocalypse than something over-dramatic like an asteroid or a bomb. It\'s one of the reasons why I laughed whenever I had to watch those crappy \"end-of-the-world\" movies like \"Armageddon\" or \"The Day After Tomorrow\".
Oh how traumatic and terribly sad. That was a gut wrenching chapter, but there was a dignity and beauty in Faris and even his death which overlays the horror of the disease.
Author's Response: Thank you. I tried to make him seem dignified even in such a horrible death.
I thought Molly might do this, and I can understand her irrationality, but she would never even be able to get out of the UK, let alone anywhere else.
Author's Response: Exactly.
Hits the nail on the head with extreme accuracy and force.
I cannot stand Disney, hated it when I was a child, even. You've just reminded me why; the thought of Disney ever demolishing Tolkien like this caused a moment of murderous rage. Brilliant as always. * Imagines lowering Disney wholesale into the depths of Orodruin; in metal cages; very slowly. *
Hah, stuff you Disney-Sauron-with-Jeremy-Irons-voice, my dog could out-evil you and he's a complete wuss.
Author's Response: You hit the nail on the head with your review. Nice.
Oh I do like this, lovely. Elladan and Elrohir though, that is very sorrowful and poignant :( I feel for them.
Author's Response: Aw, I feel for them too...but I love angst!Elrohir...
Still Anonymous, I love the grasp you have on these First Age characters. They are far more enthralling than those in the LOTR, I think and the Silmarillion is my greatest love. It's such a small part of the Tolkien fandom, but perhaps because of that I have rarely read any badly written stories. I would still like to read more, however, since there is so many gap fillers which could be written, apart from anything else, simply offered the fanfic writer on a plate.
A wonderful piece. Thank you very much.
Author's Response: Hello, xFanarix! Thank you very much for reviewing my story and putting me on your Favorites List! I tend to compulsively worry that my stories are bad (not just bad, at that, but most awful and terrible travesties), and mentally dissect them, so it cheers me up immensely to get a review like this. I love "The Silmarillion," too, and relatively recently acquired "The Lays of Beleriand" and "Unfinished Tales." (They are preciousss, to us, yesss.) I think the characters in LotR are excellent, too, but it's a lot harder to write them because there is so much bad (or, at least, OOC) fanfiction floating around about them that our understanding of their characters has been greatly confused and diminished. "The Silmarillion" becomes a breath of fresh air in the Middle-Earth fandom. There are definitely some really great characters there, too. It also helps that people who actually enjoy "The Silmarillion" are book fans and not movie fans, and, therefore, tend to have a much better grasp of what they're doing. I think "The Leithian Script" by Philosopher At Large may have had the best characterisations of any Silm fanfic I've ever read. (It makes me feel like a fumbling idiot. And I am not an idiot. Fumbling, now . . .) ;) I'll probably end up writing more Silm fanfic at some point. I seem to be an addict. (I'm sure you can understand.) ;) ~Thank you (and you're welcome), Still Anonymous :D
That is very beautiful.
I like to read stories written from the '' other '' viewpoint. I think it is much leas easy than from the standpoint we know better, Elves, Men etc. But it's thought- provoking to spend a moment to think; '' They were not always evil. '' Not even Morgoth.
This is most poignant and I feel a great deal of sorrow for this unnamed Maia.
I cannot stand the film Elrond. The book Elrond was described quite differently and he was the son of Bright Eärendil.
He did NOT look like Hugo Weaving! Give me strength.
Mortal's cannot play Elves, I don't care if it is Orlando Bloom. Real Elves would make the most beautiful supermodel look like mud.
The Elves were very disappointing in the films. Mostly they just looked for skinny guys and put long wigs on them. My pet peeve about the films. [ Apart from Arwen taking Glorfindel's place - but if they had mucked up Glorfindel that would have been worse ]
I like the book Elrond, both in the Hobbit and LOTR, but the film...I can hardly write of him now, it put me off horribly. I'll have to read LOTR another ten years to get Hugo Weaving's image out of my mind.
Disclaimer: I do not own LOTR and I do not make any profit from writing this work of fiction.
Categories: Lord of the Rings Slash
Characters: Arwen, Elrohir
Warnings: AU (alternate universe), Graphic Sex, Slash (same sex pairing)
Series: The Darker side of the Gemini
Chapters: 1 Table of Contents
Completed: Yes Word count: 1083 Read Count: 3639
I've never read any femmeshalsh, Gemini_Elf, hardly any FF at all, really, and I wanted to read anything by you since you have been so kind about DP. I really think this was well written, mature, empathic and pretty darn hot. ;) I also like the ending - so where does it go from there?
Author's Response: Aw, thank you! I\'d forgotten I\'d written this, and looking back I\'m amazed that I wrote it! *Sighs* I had a sequel planned, (more PWP ;)) but now I\'ve got tons of work to do and other fics are piling up...Who knows? One day I may write a sequel!
This was just so spot on, but very, very funny, too, I fell off my chair . great!
Author's Response: Thanks! I\'ve been meaning to continue it.
The armies of Mordor, driven ceaselessly by their masters, march ever onward towards the West. The Dark Lord Sauron sits upon his black throne, eagerly anticipating the final victory as he watches history unfold through the palantir.
With Gondor fallen, will Rohan be conquered at last... and then the rest of Middle-earth?
Characters: Aragorn, Eomer, Gandalf / Olorin, Glorfindel, Mouth of Sauron, Nazgūl, Orcs/Uruk-Hai, Original Character, Sauron, Thuringwethil, Witch King
Genres: Action/Adventure, Drama, Erotica, Fantasy, Horror, Tragedy
Warnings: AU (alternate universe), Character Death, Graphic Sex, Rape, Violence
Series: The Circles of Power
Chapters: 44 Table of Contents
Completed: Yes Word count: 165913 Read Count: 81015
I love this: your reaearch, your knowledge of canon, [ even though this is AU] the '' flavor '' of Rohan and it's peoples , the language you use, reads effortlessly.
Author's Response: Elfhild and I are glad you are enjoying the story. There will be many twists and turns in the story and we will be honored if you keep reading.
What can I say? This is GRIPPING, gut-wrenching, truly atmospheric, mature, and realistic. I feel it should be among my collection of most read [very foxed!] books. I have read few published novels which have enthralled me like this, despite the claims of many '' Gripping! '' '' Unputdownable! '' . This really is. It is thoroughly believable, and you have not fudged the true impact of war , [ as you said in a response you would not ] which whether in a fantasy novel, or reality, is terrible. I am truly hooked, this is very special, original , and immensly talented writing, from both authors. Very many thanks!
Author's Response: xFanarix, thank you again for your kind words. While magic and sorcery play a part in The Circles, Elfhild and I planned from the beginning that it was not going to take prime importance. Where real life situations, such as war, are the focus, the story will get grim and bloody, and we do not promise happy endings to all stories.\r\n\r\nAngmar and Elfhild