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"End? No, the journey does not end here. Death is just another path, one we all must take. The grey curtains of this world roll back, and all turns to silver glass. And then you see it. White shores, and beyond. A far green country under a swift sunrise."

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The Sons of Thunder by ziggy Rated: NC-17 [Reviews - 279]
Summary: They are called the Sons of Thunder by the Orcs of the Mountains. A storm erupts between one Son of Elrond and one Son of Thranduil. In the aftermath of the battle of the Morannon, Elrohir has one final battle.
Categories: Book-verse, Book Verse Slash, Lord of the Rings Slash
Characters: Legolas
Genres: General
Warnings: None
Series: None
Chapters: 46 Table of Contents
Completed: No Word count: 314756 Read Count: 58110
[Report This] Published: 15/10/10 Updated: 15/06/12
Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 03/07/11 Title: Chapter 32: Chapter 32 A Memory of Rohan

Again a very beautiful moving chapter. The fact that the horses were all overjoyed to when Legolas came into the stable was as charming as could be. I can just see Legolas walking briskly into the stable and whistling tunelessly as you say.

Legolas is so brave. I love what he said about impossible odds and great danger, that’s what wood elves are good at.

I was absolutely delighted when he smiled at the herald and made the poor lad forget his own name.

Oh and Zig, don’t tell me you were not trying to break my heart when Eomer told Legolas he would love him again if only the elf would let him. My goodness! Poor dear smitten Eomer. He seems so infatuated. I know what must happen. I also know Legolas lovers Elro, but Eomer love Legolas just the same. He is so tender and caring and I love that he tosses his pride away to sink to his knees and help Legolas with the army he commands streaming around them. Eomer is a beautiful soul, strong, strong enough to be gentle.

Many thanks for this!! I am endlessly glad you are still posting here for us. What a great loss to the site it would be if you were not here.

Author's Response: I am still posting here for the time being, Lisse, but I am also posting on ESteliel's new site- which is full of wonderful writers I have not read before and an easy site to use. I will give Keith a chance but to be honest, I like waht he has been saying on his blog less and less. I don't liek the veiled threats that say things like - nothing will change yet - and suggestions tha tthese things can be looked at again later. But give the guy a chance too. My suspicion is he has seen a chance with the new Hobbit film and expects a massive upturn- which will happen. And then seek to seel the site or sell advertising. Anyway- I could go on. Ah, Eomer. He just won't lie down, will he. And he is lovely in htis. And Legolas has to be very very gentle, doesnt he. And if Elrohir does reject Legolas, the last thing the lef should do is go and revive what eh had with Eomer on the rebound...isnt it? Well... you know...Legolas is unpredictable. So he could go one way or the other. LOve Zig

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 11/08/11 Title: Chapter 34: Chapter 34 Yzira

Ziggy,

So sorry it has taken me so long to review, but I will review you a dozen times to keep you writing, and no matter the place you post I will read and review you. I just needed to say this and will read again and say more.

Legolas stronger than Elrohir? Of course! And oh what an image of your beautiful Legolas submitting yet remaining in control as he kneels for Elrohir. I can just see all that long blond hair spilling over his shoulders, fluttering in the breeze! And I love Legolas come back when Ro says he will destroy him… “You flatter yourself Noldor.” We know what Elrohir means of course.

If Elrohir was not possessed by the Nazgul he would not have treated Legolas so harshly. He will hate himself all the more now for his abuse of his beloved, and for failing to protect Legolas.

Thank you for another incomparable chapter or two. Love you Ziggy. So looking forward to more!

Love Candy

Author's Response: Hello my dear Candy! Thank you for the lovely support you always give-it's worht writing just for you! And there's a new chapter waiting for you when you look next. Love Ziggy

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 05/11/11 Title: Chapter 38: Chapter 38 Before the Black Gate

Ziggy,

It seems L8 has spoken for me in her review! I mean we talk about every chapter and are in agreement about your work. I do have to add that the Nazgul as living gargoyles is so imaginative and spooky. I read this oh so perfect chapter on Halloween for the first time and it was so appropriate to the evening.

I hope you do not mind my saying, I found a bit of humor in the fact that Eomer and Elrohir nearly fell into hand to hand combat over Legolas under the threat of death in an impending battle with Darkness. It just goes to show what males think with. Hehehe!

The humor aside, my heart still breaks for Eomer.

I am so pleased about your hints and flirtations between Elladan and Imrahil. Imrahil seems so gallant and courageous. I love the fact he thought so quickly to offer every hope of success to the soldiers by keeping their provisions. This is exactly the kind of love interest Elladan deserves, one with a good heart and piercing elvish eyes. Squeals of delight from slash fangurl!

This was a perfect chapter. But perfection is what your writing is!

Thank you beautiful Zig! Looking forward to more.

Love Candy

Author's Response: Thank you my dear Candy!! Love the fact that you seem so pleased by Imrahil's developing crush and Elladan's blissful ignorance! That is for you and L8. And I am delighted you thought it so humourous that Eomer and Elrohir almost come to blows- it IS very adolescent and I hope too that Elrohir comes acorss as very confident in Legolas' feelings for him. I have two chapters pretty much finished but lovely Anar is snowed under so it will be a little time before she gets to it. Much love

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 16/01/12 Title: Chapter 42: Chapter 42

This review is being done on my I pod so it will be brief with another to follow. First, please prolong the sweet agony. Write as much as you want because I do not think it you could possibly write until I have had my fill of reading. Second, this is saying a lot but this is your best chapter. I was almost too much for my heart to take. There are only a few authors who can break open my chest, extract a beating heart, break it, return it, and expect me to go on with my day. You are one. Your writing leaves me changed.

Once again, love and graditude

Author's Response: You are an angst queen, Lisse! I'll see how it goes although I am not sure if they can hang on any longer! Poor Legolas- would you have him endure poison AND heartbreak? Hm- yes, I htought you would! xx

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 18/06/11 Title: Chapter 31: Chapter 31 Confession

“Elrohir felt suddenly envious that Mirkwood's children were so free, so unashamed, unlike the Noldor for whom sex was about wedlock and binding and for whom desire was supposed to fade. It had never been so for him and he wondered if he might have been happier had he been born in Mirkwood.”
L8bleumer (Melissa)and I were just talking about this quote from your chapter 14.

There are a few things I forgot to mention. First, as others have mentioned, I appreciate the insight into Gandalf and enjoyed reading it.
Second, I noticed your mention of our dear Melusine. She is working on her lovely het right now. Those that love slash are in for a real treat in reading her. It was Melusine’s exquisite slash that prompted a change of heart for me. Now I LOVE it.

Author's Response: I love that you and L8 were talking about this- how intensely flattering. Yes- thank you for finding it - it takes me ages to remember where things are. AH- interesting that Melusine inspired your het fics. When I was writing the prequel to Sons, I started off wanting Legolas ot be with Eowyn- but Eomer was very insistent and even though I really wanted Eowyn most readers wanted slash- isnt it funny. I think slash is ..I was just going to say uncomplicated and then I remebered what I was writing! And what Spiced is writing and thought what nonsense!

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 18/06/11 Title: Chapter 31: Chapter 31 Confession

Most of us would prefer that sex be about love, but that is not always the case. At times it is about dominance or instinct, or something we cannot understand. It is about raw emotions we are not in touch with. It is about survival, just like eating or breathing. There are people who are going to gasp and say I am horrible for saying this, but Elrohir did not commit the terrible crime he has been carrying the guilt of. He almost raped his mother. But he did not. He watched. He was aroused. It was a visceral, gut level reaction, coming from a place too deep and primal for his cultures mores to reach, yet he himself pulled himself back from the edge of the unforgivable. This took self control, for which he should be commended. Elladan is guilty of breaking his traditional morals as well, if in their culture sex is about bonding and wedlock, for he wants Legolas. (Who wouldn’t want Legolas?) I feel sorry for both of the brothers, they both need comforting. But my heart goes out to Elrohir because he is only guilty of a thought, a touch, not rape. He has been flogged with a rod of morality for an evil he did not commit. And unless every other intelligent being has complete thought and impulse control at all times they are in no position to judge him.
Written to twist our hearts out of our chest, this chapter is perfect in its anguish!

With all my ardent devotion, yours, Candy.

Author's Response: Well wonderful Candy- you expressed that perfectly. It is what I have been trying to express and grapple with myself actually- I have taken out that particualr line on ffnet because it is les mature and open minded, but here I can explore htat more fully. I hate that Elrohir did waht he did, and it cannot be excused BUT. as you say, he did not do anything and I hope at some time, someone wil lsay that tohim. But he did stand by and do nothing when the outlaws he rode with 'punished the vanquished' as they would see it and I did not want to shy away from that- the truth about war. I am sure that men are not all honourable as the Dunedain or elves, and that event he elves knew rape (Maglor for example) so I wanted to acknolwedge that hidden side of Tolkien's elves... but as you say, Elrohir did nothing.And you have to wonder if Elladan would be as horrified if it had been some orc-female.The truth is Elrohir likes domination and is probably repressed because hte Noldor were repesssive about sex. He wonders at some earleir point if he would have been happier had he been born in Mirkwood and the truth is, he proably would be! Thank you for understadning that. Love Ziggy

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 01/10/11 Title: Chapter 37: Chapter 37 The Last Deep Breath

Ziggy, It is 7:20 a.m. in Gahanna, Ohio and when I saw that you had posted this I actually cheered.Now I get to spend my morning in my favorite way, reading the most excellent of fan fic and drinking tea. ALONE!

Reading Now.

Author's Response: sounds lovely - my favourite thing too.

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 16/08/11 Title: Chapter 35: Chapter 35

Ziggy,
After reading this chapter at least a dozen times, I am still not ready to review, but I have to. It would be a crime if I did not tell you how perfect it is. Your description of the Nazgul attack from Elrohir’s pov is the best “battle” scene ever. It is just like we are there.

Then Elladan’s introspection, guided by the evil mind twisting of the Nazgul, very good. I cannot help but feel immense sympathy for him, “generous soul that he is”. Again, L8bleumer and I were talking and as she says in her review, can’t we have a little love for Elladan? He is so beautiful.

Oh and I noticed the contrast between the brother’s implements of war. Elrohir has a fiery sword that Legolas and many fear. Elladan has a pure white sword. I find both appealing. Legolas, however, needs someone as strong and passionate as himself. Elrohir is his challenge answered. Elladan would have made a sweet love, but would have had his heart broken like Eomer. I see Legolas likes a strong lover, and hope Elro gives him all he deserves, ;).

While he is gentler than his brother, Elladan is no wimp. I love the image of him charging up the stairs 4 at a time. How very strong. I Love that he takes control and commands the archers!


In the end, It seems Legolas is finally healed and faces his fear. Oh he is so brave! No one but Thranduilion could have stood the gruesome attack.


Ziggy, surely it will take more than a few chapters to wrap this up. We have the battle and the aftermath.

Thank you for this and I look forward to reading your spicier version on the other site!

Love, Candy

Author's Response: Ah Candy - you and Mo!! OK- Elladan can have something but probably after this is finished- I cant cope with more right now... and it might not be in the AU but another one so it may be he ends up with Legolas and Elrohir can stil be all hatey and fiery about Mirkwood...oh I dont know. Or maybe Imrahil... I did sow a little seed back at Pelennor for that so perhaps I'll pick it up... or maybe write an AU of my wn AU with Elladan to be a follow on for Below Decks. Anyway, you two are great for my ego so I will keep writing even if I only post it to you two until it gets so rubbish even you dont want ot read it anyway:) XX

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 20/03/11 Title: Chapter 27: Chapter 27 Fireflies

Ziggy, I've been reading from the start and had to stop by and tell you. You are absolutely awesome. Cannot wait for more.

Author's Response: Thank you Lisse! Working on it as we speak- as I said toyour other nice review- good to have you back dear!

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 28/03/11 Title: Chapter 28: Chapter 28 The Houses of Healing

Oh Ziggy! This is one of the most beautiful moving things I have ever read, especially at the end of the chapter when Elrohir gives so tenderly. Of course I love Pip and Gimli too.
Your story of how Legolas and Aragorn met…wonderful and exactly the sort of thing I would expect from your dear Legolas.
Legolas must be very very brave to survive to this point with a strong will!

Zig, there are times when a piece of writing just overwhelms me and this is one of them. How I wish I could give you a gift equal to the one you give to all of us with your exceptional work. If I were to come close I would have to empty my bank account and put a jewel on the hand that wrote this. I would also back a florist’s truck up to your door to try to fill your world with as much joy and color as you give your readers!
Since I can’t d o that, I will do what I can and simply say thank you and I wish a world of happiness and love for you in equal measure to the delight your work has brought me in these moments.

Hearts, your devoted fan, Candy

Author's Response: Hey Candy! Glad that sotry went down well, I was not sure when I wrote it but I felt we really needed reminding of what we were in danger of losing. Oh my. Jooolllss! Sparkly! Sweetie! You are so nice. xx

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 20/04/11 Title: Chapter 29: Chapter 29 Fellowship

There is so much to love in every chapter, and this is no exception. Of course I knew it would be a treat and I jumped a little when I saw your post in the left column.

I love poor, blundering, well meaning pip, And Legolas’ thoughts as he is talking. It is endearing that Legolas as an adult thinks his father knows everything. I also love the parental glance that makes Thranduil’s adult sons look at the ground and shuffle their feet.
Aragorn says he has done enough. You bet he has and without so much as a thank you, at least as far as I can recall.
I know you are getting to it, but I wanted Elrohir to kiss Legolas too. That Gimli! If it were not for his stubbornness…
Zig, we will wait for you as long as it takes. Quality like this cannot be rushed. Now of course you could rewrite the trilogy and I would be delighted to read every page. You deserve every possible success and recognition, and that is what I wish for you, along with all of us who love you.
Thank you for this and for all that you write.
Your ardent fan, Candy

Author's Response: Hey Candy - thank you dear. You are such a treat yourself. Glad Pippin worked for you- I always find it easy to write Pippin- his voice is very strong and I can hear him speaking when I write but I htink that is part the genius of PJ's casting to be honest. And I likeot keep remniding us about Thradnuil-he is stil lLegoals' signicant other for the moment and Gimli also fufills that role to some extent in Thraduil's absence. Oh- that kiss... yes. I think, for you, there should be one quite soon...I have started writing it already as soon as I read your review- it feels right... but I am not going to tell you what happens during/ after the kiss! Love Zig

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 20/04/11 Title: Chapter 1: Chapter 1 Keeping Watch

that is the column to the anatomic left

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 30/05/11 Title: Chapter 30: Chapter 30

Ziggy, thank you for this lovely chapter. It is nice to see the three of them reunited even though there was some tension. Legolas is so stubborn, and so unpredictable. I loved the line “then I will not kill you.” I had to think of Legolas leaning against Aragorn in the bath house (different story), and with Eomer, and wonder how he could be so offended by a touch. But that is your wild Legolas and I love both him and you dearly. You are brilliant! I know you are busy, but I wont let you forget about that kiss I mentioned last chapter.

Author's Response: Oh my dear Lisse! If only you knew how hard I tried to get that kiss in to this chapter! I think I have written every permutation of this bit of the story possible but it just isn't the right time- be patient. I will write you something of your own perhaps, just to keep you interested! All I can say is I think neither Legolas nor Elrohir are in a fit state to do anything right now and you would only call me a tease!! Anar had to put me back on track as usual. I love that scene in the bath house - I think you mean Rohan's Gold? I need ot write something like that again- but a bit more ...steamy. xx

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 30/05/11 Title: Chapter 30: Chapter 30

How well I understand. I write elf slash for my own enjoyment, doubting very much anyone else would find it enjoyable at this point. One of the elves was completely impotent until I let him tell the story of his wounded past. Now he is pleasantly buoyant and his lover is overjoyed. Funny how you cannot make them do what they don’t want to or are not ready for. It has literally taken me months of trying to finally figure out why my lad could not raise the mast.

Anyway, you always hold my interest. You could write Legolas going to the grocery and make it suspenseful, and alluring. So don’t fret about writing anything special. I adore you Ziggy! Certainly the moment will be right for them in time. But as others have said, Legolas may not be the elf for your Elrohir. He is in need of more than a night of consolation. He seems to need a lover that will care for him for some time. But Writing the story is up to you and will be a delight no matter which direction you take!

Author's Response: Yes- I have wondered about whether Legolas is right for Elrohir. Anar has made me at least think about that. As you say, they will tell us in their own time... but I hope they at least get to do more than just snog! Elrohir is just going to explode!!!

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 30/10/11 Title: Chapter 38: Chapter 38 Before the Black Gate

OMG! How long has this been posted? I wasted my Sunday morning on rubish when I could have been reading this! Better late than never. Thanks Zig.

Author's Response: Lisse- you ALWAYS make me smile! Hope you enjoyed it and the next one will be out soon.x

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 26/11/11 Title: Chapter 40: Chapter 40

Ziggy, I truly am inadequate to review this and the previous chapter. But I will try. I have said from the beginning you are far better than Tolkien. This is one more proof. I could not stop reading once I started.

Once more Eomer’s unrequited passion for Legolas is heartbreaking, and I can see Legolas as almost tiring of it.

The black gate, the mouth, it’s tempting and taunting, all so masterfully written as to make me hold my breath while reading.

When I write I have trouble explaining and balancing the emotion and thought of two characters and you manage to make the horses heroes to us also.

Yes this chapter was for Elrohir and Elladan fans. Trust me, I am that! I love the hints of feeling between Imrahil and Elladan even in the middle of this horrible contest. Elladan is absolutely stunning in his courage and strength.

Ziggy, really it all comes down to this. This chapter was flawless, brilliant, and unforgettable. What beautiful artistry. What a gift you have. I’ve said this before, but I wish there was something I could give you that would show my appreciation for what you do, and who you are. But all I can do is thank you. This is one of those stories I will read over again several times. And it stays with a person. I find myself thinking of your characters and wondering about them as if they were real people I know. Btw, I love your twins with a passion. They are both magnificent.

Thanks again Ziggy,

Love, Candy

Author's Response: I like your idea of Legoals almost tiring of Eomer - as at some point he should probably. After all he did finish it cleanly and Eomer is still puppy-dog eyes after him.But I like Eomer and they were good together werent they?And as I have said to Ebbingnight, and Alpha Ori, I am not QUITE sure yet which way it goes...I have to let them reveal it to me rather than drive them down a path. They'll only rebel later and do something uncontrolled. It's enough that you review as that's all the reward I want. Thank you for being so absolutley postive, encouraging and consistent. x

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 10/01/12 Title: Chapter 41: Chapter 41 The Last Battle

How do you do it? How can you possibly have such a brilliant imagination as to see and feel the Nazgul attack so vividly from Elrohir’s pov. The whole thing is genius! How can I stand it until the next chapter is posted? Btw, I loved the kiss. It’s about time. And I was touched by what Elrohir thought as the Uruk attacked him. He wished he had not spent his life on self loathing. I hope he keeps his will strong and takes off that crown. Zig you have left me stunned as always. You just get better and better and how can this be possible for someone who writes with an already perfect result?

Much love and thanks, Candy

Author's Response: Hello my dear Candy! Yes- the kiss was the main thing I could see whe I was writing the previous chapter actually. And don't worry, the next chapter is with Anar now and I think I will get it posted by the weekend. You do say nice things. Thank you Ziggy

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 11/03/12 Title: Chapter 43: Chapter 43 The Black Web

Goddness, this last chapter has been up a while, and I missed it. Well it was so worth the wait. Elrohir is conducting an ME code!

He is giving all of himself. He finally has no dark motive at all.

It makes me wonder if he and legolas will ever be able to love each other or Eru forbid, will one or both not survive the ordeal. I am not surprised you gave us yet another cliff hanger. You tease! But we love you for it. Just prolongs the sweet agony for us and them. Good to spend my Sunday morning on the best reading fan fic offers. I just started reading a nice long story on the silm writers guild. Between that and yours, I'm in heaven!

Love, Candy

Author's Response: Hello Candy- what's an ME code? Sorry for my ignorance! But he is certainly not holding back and you'll see how it has to be him and Legolas rather than Elladan now. Do you think he deserves Legolas yet? Has he atoned sufficiently? I know another cliffhanger but it sort of stops where it wants to and I wasn't ready with the next chapter until now. About two more to go, at most three. Shouldn't be long now. love ziggy

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 12/04/12 Title: Chapter 44: Chapter 44 Distant Shores

Wow Zig, I just started reading but had to let you know that I'm here and loving this. The paragraph in which Aragorn watches Sam and Frodo with such pride is so touching and true. It is to Tolkien's credit that he made a simple gardener the true hero of his LotR. I know volumes of commentary have been written on this, but I love your take on it. Lots more to read but I'm reading my fan fic slowly these days.

Love you, and thank you for this chapter, your masterful work in The Sons of Thunder, your kind mention of me and my friend L8, and for every single word you write.

Author's Response: Hey Lisse- sorry I overlooked replying to this! I am so glad you picked up on the love between the Fellowship -Tolkien focused on the Hobbits really and didn't give enough time for the others. Love to you and L8 as always! xx

Reviewer: Lisse Signed
Date: 21/05/12 Title: Chapter 45: Chapter 45 Tall Tales and Pipeweed

Dear Zig,
This review is long overdue. I have so enjoyed Sons of Thunder. What an exceptional story. In a way I am glad I took so long to review. The time gave me a chance to see what I remember and why. I remember you saying “Legolas picks hearts like flowers.” It might have been true at one time but not now. The story may not end with a toss in the clover for Legolas and Elrohir, but it ends with them alive and focused on each other. The word beloved is so weighty, so full of hope.
It is remarkable that after all the damage he has caused that Sauron still holds some place in Gandolf’s heart. He grieves for him. Amazing. It is staggering to think of all Gandolf has seen.
Eomer will recover from his love for Legolas, but I will never forget how love humbled a King to the point of kneeling in the dust while his army marches past him. That was one of the most moving things I have read. It brought tears to my eyes and I still think of it.
Elladan. What a beautiful soul. As I reflect on Sons, I of course think of him and hope he someday understands his brother’s more passionate nature. I think the swan prince just might help him do just that.
Your writing is just magic and Has given me many happy hours and fostered great conversations.

Thank you Zig. Love you. Candy

Author's Response: It is always lovely to get a review from you Lisse. I think you have been one of the most faithful reviewers and it's a joy to write for you - you always review and are so appreciative, overlooking the typos and errors! Yes- Legolas is really smitten and thank you for reminding me of that snippet- I might use it sometime. Ah, now there is a story in Gandalf andSauron, don't you think? Gandalf describes this as his 'great work' so they must have been connected some way. Opposite perhaps in teh music? So a connection had ot be strong and Gandalf will feel that emptiness now. You say such nice things that I have to write something more, but not sure what yet. Watch this space.. or rather, Faerie because I wont be psoting here I dont think after the last chapter of Sons. Love zig xx